Comments on: Why Load Testing Does Not Work for the Web `Date::today >> 36` http://altentee.com/blogs/2009/why-load-testing-does-not-work-for-the-web-datetoday-36/ Performance and Test Automation Experts Mon, 09 May 2011 03:51:22 +0000 hourly 1 http://wordpress.org/?v=3.0.3 By: Betty Simpkin http://altentee.com/blogs/2009/why-load-testing-does-not-work-for-the-web-datetoday-36/#comment-7336 Betty Simpkin Sun, 29 Aug 2010 09:52:19 +0000 http://90kts.com/blog/2009/why-load-testing-does-not-work-for-the-web-datetoday-36/#comment-7336 Hey! Just wanted to tell you that you own a super little website and I would like you understand how sweet it looks. Will come back on a regular basis. Hey! Just wanted to tell you that you own a super little website and I would like you understand how sweet it looks. Will come back on a regular basis.

]]> By: qualitypoint http://altentee.com/blogs/2009/why-load-testing-does-not-work-for-the-web-datetoday-36/#comment-7335 qualitypoint Thu, 07 Jan 2010 06:28:01 +0000 http://90kts.com/blog/2009/why-load-testing-does-not-work-for-the-web-datetoday-36/#comment-7335 Hi, First of all Thanks very much for your useful post. I would like to introduce another good blog which is having free software testing ebooks and technical content, Have a look. Hi,

First of all Thanks very much for your useful post.
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]]> By: Tim http://altentee.com/blogs/2009/why-load-testing-does-not-work-for-the-web-datetoday-36/#comment-7334 Tim Sat, 12 Dec 2009 23:44:47 +0000 http://90kts.com/blog/2009/why-load-testing-does-not-work-for-the-web-datetoday-36/#comment-7334 well, i've started this side-project => http://github.com/90kts/watirgrid Let me know about your hack day, I'd be interested... Cheers, Tim well, i’ve started this side-project => http://github.com/90kts/watirgrid

Let me know about your hack day, I’d be interested…

Cheers,
Tim

]]> By: Jared http://altentee.com/blogs/2009/why-load-testing-does-not-work-for-the-web-datetoday-36/#comment-7333 Jared Thu, 10 Dec 2009 23:24:43 +0000 http://90kts.com/blog/2009/why-load-testing-does-not-work-for-the-web-datetoday-36/#comment-7333 Yes, the tools fall short. What are you doing about it? :) I'm going to get a fuller response to this on my blog. Let me know if you want to organise a hack day to start work on a simple tool. Yes, the tools fall short. What are you doing about it? :)

I’m going to get a fuller response to this on my blog. Let me know if you want to organise a hack day to start work on a simple tool.

]]> By: Tim http://altentee.com/blogs/2009/why-load-testing-does-not-work-for-the-web-datetoday-36/#comment-7332 Tim Tue, 10 Nov 2009 21:52:28 +0000 http://90kts.com/blog/2009/why-load-testing-does-not-work-for-the-web-datetoday-36/#comment-7332 Budd, it will definitely be a rewarding experience for you no doubt. Despite this blog's grievances towards commercial load testing tools, I acknowledge that they've kept me employed for the last 5 years consulting as a performance tester. Please don't be put off by them. I don't think the frustrations are reflective of the environments I've worked in. The people I've worked with have been great and I've loved the challenge each different workplace offers. The frustrations lies more with an ageing toolset which hasn't really kept pace with the maturing software testing field in general. Also, bigger is not necessarily better! Some of the most enjoyable work I've done has been with very small teams. Be sure to consider Conway's law! [1]. However if you're looking for experience and variety in terms of protocols tested with, larger team sizes etc then I strongly encourage you to consider the role on the other side of Australia =) Regards, Tim [1] http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Conway's_Law Budd, it will definitely be a rewarding experience for you no doubt.

Despite this blog’s grievances towards commercial load testing tools, I acknowledge that they’ve kept me employed for the last 5 years consulting as a performance tester. Please don’t be put off by them.

I don’t think the frustrations are reflective of the environments I’ve worked in. The people I’ve worked with have been great and I’ve loved the challenge each different workplace offers. The frustrations lies more with an ageing toolset which hasn’t really kept pace with the maturing software testing field in general.

Also, bigger is not necessarily better! Some of the most enjoyable work I’ve done has been with very small teams. Be sure to consider Conway’s law! [1]. However if you’re looking for experience and variety in terms of protocols tested with, larger team sizes etc then I strongly encourage you to consider the role on the other side of Australia =)

Regards,
Tim

[1] http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Conway‘s_Law

]]> By: Isuk Ray Coq http://altentee.com/blogs/2009/why-load-testing-does-not-work-for-the-web-datetoday-36/#comment-7331 Isuk Ray Coq Tue, 10 Nov 2009 11:23:46 +0000 http://90kts.com/blog/2009/why-load-testing-does-not-work-for-the-web-datetoday-36/#comment-7331 Dear Tim, Thank you for your articles on performance testing, I have found them very enlightening but the last one is strangely daunting. Let me explain, you see I have recently applied for a position where I belive you have worked in the recent past. I have heard of your expertise from many people yet you seem very frustrated. I would have thought that a national institution hosting one of the largest performance test teams in Australia would be a great place for a budding newbie performance tester to really see how the big end of town goes about its business. I am thinking of moving from Perth and will take only a small paycut from my permanent position. Can you please confirm that it will be a wonderfully rewarding experience for me?? Yours Budd Dear Tim,

Thank you for your articles on performance testing, I have found them very enlightening but the last one is strangely daunting.

Let me explain, you see I have recently applied for a position where I belive you have worked in the recent past. I have heard of your expertise from many people yet you seem very frustrated.

I would have thought that a national institution hosting one of the largest performance test teams in Australia would be a great place for a budding newbie performance tester to really see how the big end of town goes about its business.

I am thinking of moving from Perth and will take only a small paycut from my permanent position. Can you please confirm that it will be a wonderfully rewarding experience for me??

Yours
Budd

]]> By: Tim http://altentee.com/blogs/2009/why-load-testing-does-not-work-for-the-web-datetoday-36/#comment-7330 Tim Tue, 20 Oct 2009 20:54:32 +0000 http://90kts.com/blog/2009/why-load-testing-does-not-work-for-the-web-datetoday-36/#comment-7330 Agreed José, It would be nice to spend less time scripting and more time analysing performance results... Stay tuned for more open source alternatives in the near future! Agreed José,

It would be nice to spend less time scripting and more time analysing performance results… Stay tuned for more open source alternatives in the near future!

]]> By: Jose http://altentee.com/blogs/2009/why-load-testing-does-not-work-for-the-web-datetoday-36/#comment-7329 Jose Tue, 20 Oct 2009 20:03:22 +0000 http://90kts.com/blog/2009/why-load-testing-does-not-work-for-the-web-datetoday-36/#comment-7329 Tim, "You’ll go cross-eyed looking at test plans in xml" LOL I've worked with these tools and I agree with you Tim, there are a lot of features to add to the performance tools. I think the next step is to combine the automation tools like Watir or Selenium with performance tools to make it easier the task to create performance scenarios and we "humans with brains and experience" can make a deeper analyze of the results. Best Regards. José Tim,

“You’ll go cross-eyed looking at test plans in xml”

LOL

I’ve worked with these tools and I agree with you Tim, there are a lot of features to add to the performance tools. I think the next step is to combine the automation tools like Watir or Selenium with performance tools to make it easier the task to create performance scenarios and we “humans with brains and experience” can make a deeper analyze of the results.

Best Regards.

José

]]> By: Speedmaster http://altentee.com/blogs/2009/why-load-testing-does-not-work-for-the-web-datetoday-36/#comment-7328 Speedmaster Mon, 19 Oct 2009 14:15:20 +0000 http://90kts.com/blog/2009/why-load-testing-does-not-work-for-the-web-datetoday-36/#comment-7328 Great post! I agree. Some parts of this type of work do seem stuck in the past. The first vendor to come out with a ground-breaking improvement in #s 1 & 2 above will make a killing, imho. Great post! I agree. Some parts of this type of work do seem stuck in the past. The first vendor to come out with a ground-breaking improvement in #s 1 & 2 above will make a killing, imho.

]]> By: Tim http://altentee.com/blogs/2009/why-load-testing-does-not-work-for-the-web-datetoday-36/#comment-7327 Tim Mon, 19 Oct 2009 00:56:20 +0000 http://90kts.com/blog/2009/why-load-testing-does-not-work-for-the-web-datetoday-36/#comment-7327 LOL, yes the title was deliberately tongue-in-cheek. You're just the recipient of my weekend's frustration spent going cross-eyed looking at LR scripts... Also interesting about HTML-Mode. We are using that here but web_submit_forms are not being recorded, only web_submit_data which I'm not sure why. (We use HTML-based scripts with HTML advanced as 'a script describing user actions (e.g. web_ink, web_submit_form). I use web_link whenever I can because that is definitely easier. Shame you can't pass in regex to the string match parameters. Also web_click, I think you're talking about the Click and Script protocol which costs more money, and I haven't heard enough good (anecdotal) advice to switch to that. I'll leave ANSI C for you to enjoy ;) LOL, yes the title was deliberately tongue-in-cheek. You’re just the recipient of my weekend’s frustration spent going cross-eyed looking at LR scripts…

Also interesting about HTML-Mode. We are using that here but web_submit_forms are not being recorded, only web_submit_data which I’m not sure why. (We use HTML-based scripts with HTML advanced as ‘a script describing user actions (e.g. web_ink, web_submit_form). I use web_link whenever I can because that is definitely easier. Shame you can’t pass in regex to the string match parameters.

Also web_click, I think you’re talking about the Click and Script protocol which costs more money, and I haven’t heard enough good (anecdotal) advice to switch to that.

I’ll leave ANSI C for you to enjoy ;)

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